Thursday, October 13, 2005


DOMPIG on DAN ABRAMS SHOW

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Dan Abrams 10/12

DOMPIG: Exactly. And I go by the rule of thumb that, in the first 40 days -- as I said in a different program -- the first 40 days, law enforcement has probably also already spoken to the perpetrators.

So we feel strongly that we have already spoken to them. And there's no one else outside this group that could be involved or responsible.

So sometimes people will ask us that, "Are you not tunnel-visioned? Maybe you should look at other possibilities." Of course. We did that. But we still feel that, every time you go on a path, a different path, that path leads back, comes back to these three boys.

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Tuesday, October 11, 2005


DEEPAK TAPE

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IIRC, the existence of the Deepak tape was announced, later shown on Dr. Phil.

The Prosecutor was advised the tape existed, & queried about being provided a copy.

The response was the original was required—copy not acceptable.

The requirement of the tape’s providers was public turnover, complete visibility.

Apparently, the Prosecutor does not wish an open turnover of the Deepak tape.

Why not?


Now, the tape is with the FBI. What’s the next step?

Suggestion:
The best action would be for an International Attorney to accompany an FBI agent (complete with orginal tape and verification documents,) both Attorney and Agent should appear before the Aruban Judge. At that time, the Judge views the original and is provided with a complete, unedited, authenticated copy prepared by the FBI. The original would remain in the custody of the FBI.

If this method is not satisfactory, there will be no prosecutable case.


COSBY, CRIER, TRAPPENBERG 10/10

Full Transcript: Cosby Transcript 10/10

COSBY: Do you have faith, though, in the Aruban government that it‘s doing everything it can do, Mr. Trapenberg?

TRAPENBERG: Absolutely. And Catherine is saying about politics. Politics has nothing do with the legal system here, and that‘s—I don‘t know how it is in the U.S., but here—you know, our judges are not elected. They don‘t have anything to do with it. It‘s a totally separate legal entity. They do what they have to do. And as much as the prime minister tried to get involved to feel that—let them feel that they‘d have the total Aruban support—and I mean the Aruban people and the Aruban government -- but still, the government is not the one doing the investigation.

And you know, when you hear talk about a cover-up, how are you going to cover up something when you have—when you‘re working with the FBI? You know, it‘s uncalled-for.

COSBY: Catherine, do you believe there‘s politics? He said there‘s not.

CRIER: Well, he says there‘s not—they aren‘t elected judges. You‘re right, they‘re not responsible to the people, they‘re responsible to the politicians and the upper echelon and...

COSBY: So in other words, they‘re accountable to the wrong people.

(CROSSTALK)

CRIER: Absolutely. And again, you‘ve got words from these guys about a felony that was committed, and yet all of them are free to leave the island. We know that Joran has already left the island. As I said before he did, if I was his dad, and not if I was a prosecutor, I‘d not only have him off the island, I‘d have him out of the Netherlands. And what‘s to stop the Kalpoe brothers from doing the same? Because right now, they‘re not under hold.



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Monday, October 10, 2005


ADDITIONS--10/10, Monday

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POLICE--COMEMENCIA, EDWIN

CHANGED "Miscellaneous Persons" to DIRECTORY of PERSONS and added:

TROMP, EDWIN
TROMP, ROY, Lt

MOVED:
Miscellaneous Witnesses into INTERESTING PERSONS (section above Dir.of Persons.)

Sunday, October 09, 2005


ARUBA---SATIRE

FOR CHANGE-OF-PACE READING:


Aruba For Sale?

Prosecutor to Charge Natalee Holloway with Sexual Assault

Prosecutor Holding Ocean for Suspicion of Murder

by DEETCH


ADDITIONS--10/9, Sunday

Updates were made to the following sections:

VEHICLES--

PEOPLE--Vocking info

SEARCHES--Arikok National Park Info

POLICE--Commencia, Papito

ALIBIS--


THE POLICE

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DOMPIG, GEROLD, Deputy Chief

BIG STORY on FOX with Megan Kendall (10/8 9PM)


MK: Dep Chief Gerold Dompig.

An FBI trained investigator who spent almost ten years in Holland working on major criminal cases. Welcome sir, and tell us. You’re involved in this investigation, what new leads are the police pursuing tonight?

GD: Well, Good Evening. We have been working on two …several tracks, you could say. One is rereading material we already have, and the second is working on the leads we haven’t been able to work on. In that respect, we also received new information, and new leads, and we are diligently working on those. And, I might say that, my people convinced me with that information that the case is far from dead.

MK: Can you share with us any of those new leads that appear to have some promise?

GD:
Well, let me explain that once these guys were set free, we feel that people will probably know something, feel compelled to come forward. So, these information, these tips and leads keep coming in. And…some of them are very, very interesting, and we feel that still our suspects, these same three boys, remain very interesting to us.

MK: And Deputy Chief, do you think. . . two part question. Do you think that Natalee Holloway is dead? And, do you think that one, or all three suspects, are responsible for it?

GD: Well, of course, you don’t know. But, we have to assume, and that’s what investigating is all about. You have to assume that some fault lay with, there was some fault lay, but we never stop looking for the live Natalee. We never stopped, although the those efforts were kind of like at a back burner, you could say. But, never stopped, though.

MK: Well, what about these 3 guys? You think you have your man in one, or all three of them?

GD: Yes, let me say this. Basic thumb-rule says that the first forty days of your investigation, you probably have talked to the perpetrators. And, we feel that we have talked to them.


MK: Right. Let me ask you about this tape. Allegedly, Deepak Kalpoe made statements admitting that all three of them had sex with Natalee. Assuming that police down there get their hands on that tape, sometime soon from Dr. Phil, and it confirms that he made that admission, coupled with admissions that the three or one of them had made in the past that Natalee was fading in and out of consciousness on that night, would that be enough for an arrest on a sex charge?

GD: Well, I cannot comment on that. I can say that we have done

everything possible to get our hands on the tape, the original tapes, because we really want to know if they are legitimate. If it isn’t something that is altered, ???? or whatever. And we have put in an official request to the prosecutor’s office, to the Dr. Phil Show; and, the response was that we could get the tapes, but only if the Prosecutor participated in a show where she was handed over the tapes on the air. And that’s, that’s…..of course, we don’t want to participate in the show.

MK: Wow, wow. Well, Deputy Chief, please us informed and thank very much for being here with the information.

Quick transcription:mil

COMMENCIA, PAPITO--Police Spokesperson.

COMEMENCIA, EDWIN--Police Spokesperson.

CBS

The hair will be sent to the Netherlands for DNA analysis, said police spokesman Edwin Comemencia. Aruba, a Dutch protectorate, doesn't have a lab to conduct the genetic testing.

Saturday, October 08, 2005


ALIBIS -- and the CHANGES

INFORMATION about the alibis. (This could be a messy work area.)


ALIBI ONE: HOLIDAY INN


ALIBI TWO: ASLEEP ON THE BEACH


ALIBI THREE: AWAKE AT THE BEACH


ALIBI FOUR: THE HOME





ANOTHER ALIBI:
"On 6-13 the lawyer of suspect ABRAHAM JONES, CHRIS LeJUEZ stated the following:"

Two suspects:

Joran van der Sloot and Abraham Jones were/are detained in the same cellblock at the police department in Noord. It is here that a crying suspect, Joran van der Sloot supposedly commented to another suspect, Abraham Jones the following:He is very preoccupied because he thinks that the other two Surinamese suspects might be lying and blaming him for the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.His new story is that they (with they, I mean the two other suspects) dropped him off at his home, with Natalee Holloway still in the car, further he and Natalee exchanged e-mail address and that was the last time he saw her.He also added that the story that he told the officials was orchestrated at his home, near the pool.

On 7-12 LEJUEZ stated that the, supposed,

crying and confession of Primary Suspect J. SLOOT on 6-11 was really just Suspect J, SLOOT crying because Primary
Suspect J. SLOOT had,

somehow, learned on 6-11 that the KALPOE’s were trying to implicate Primary Suspect J. SLOOT. LEJUEZ further stated that this information came from his client, Suspect A. JONES.
[Minor Edits for ease of reading only. ]
[JOURNIER (see links), persons—“L” (LeJuez) section]


**PHONECALLS--VDS UPDATED

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The PHONECALLS--VDS section has been updated.


**TIMELINE UPDATED**

**THE TIMELINE HAS BEEN UPDATED TO INCLUDE ITEMS FROM:

CBS TIMELINE


SEARCH INFORMATION

Some Search Info:

Read full article at: Boston Globe

Aruban police search home of Dutch teen

By Peter Prengaman, Associated Press Writer June 15,
2005

(…)Wednesday's search of the van der Sloot home lasted about four hours. Two white-uniformed investigators from Holland carried suitcases into the one-story, yellow-beige home, which includes an attached apartment where the young man lives. They later returned the suitcases to their white, unmarked car.

Investigators also emerged from the house carrying two white plastic garbage bags full of unidentified items. A German Shepherd also sniffed around the property outside the capital, Oranjestad.

Authorities towed a blue sport utility vehicle and a red Jeep away from the house, which is surrounded by a low stone wall and fronted by an expanse of trees and cacti.


(…)Janssen, who also went into the house, declined to comment as investigators wrapped up their search at about 4 p.m. Six police officers guarded the entrance to the property.

"We are just looking for evidence at the house but have nothing yet," police spokesman Edwin Comemencia said during the search.

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ARIKOK NATIONAL PARK AREA:


On 7-17 an ARUBAN “Arikok National Park” ranger, MARIO RASMIJN, while collecting trash discovered what appeared to be a 5” piece of duct tape with blonde hairs adhered to the tape. It is reported there are 4 blonde hairs, each about 6” to 1’ long. The duct tape with hairs was discovered at 11:45 am on the north-central shoreline area of “Boca Tortuga” (near the “Natural Pool” tourist attraction) or “conchi” called "Cura di Tortuga." The “Cura di Tortuga” is a secret, hidden pool on the windward north-central coast surrounded by rocks. The duct tape and its blonde hairs was found in a cave that had access to the ocean. The police also searched several other caves in the immediate area, including “Turtle Cave.” The blonde hairs and duct tape will be sent to Holland for forensic DNA, fingerprints, and other testing (estimated 2 days to 2 weeks for results)

ARUBAN police Commissioner STRATEN declined to provide further details, saying only that it was "part of the investigation." Interestingly, the discovery site is less than 1 mile from the 6’ long, and 4’ deep, very suspicious dug out hole excavated by “Texas EquuSearch” and 2 Aruban policemen on 7-12.

(TIM MILLER refers to the excavated site as a “temporary grave”) ((recall that during the investigation that some fishermen at the “Marriott Hotel” beach area that Primary Suspect J. SLOOT has claimed he was the last known person to be with NATALEE at reported to the police that their duct tape and other items had been stolen from the fishermen's huts…. Also recall that on 6-14 police recovered duct tape on the “Marriott Hotel“ beach area))


(…)“CNN” reported 7-18 that ARUBAN authorities and the F.B.I. will both be conducting individual DNA forensic tests on the long blonde hairs found at “Boca Tortuga” on 7-17.

On 7-18 TIEL also said he had been told that there are blonde hairs and some slightly darker hairs stuck to the duct tape.

On 7-20 KOSINSKI reported that the piece of duct tape is now being described by authorities as a wadded-up, semi-“ball” of duct tape, and there are many, many more than just 4 long blonde hairs in it. “NBC” reported there are about a dozen hairs.

On 7-21 RASMIJN found more duct tape in the same area. This duct tape had a red, paint-like substance on it.

On 7-23 “MSNBC” reported that there have been many more than 2 pieces of duct tape found in the same area, but that most of the additional pieces probably have no evidentiary value, and may not be forensically tested.


(…)On 7-29 “CBS” reported, “Strands of blonde hair found attached to duct tape in Aruba earlier this month didn't come from missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway, the FBI says. The hair was subjected to genetic testing at the FBI crime lab in Quantico, Va.”
[Minor Edits for ease of reading only.]
[JOURNIER (see links), persons—near end of “V” section]

(Does either vehicle have four-wheel-drive for possible use to the “Arikok park possible temporary grave a tipster led “Texas EquuSearch“ to on 7-12? (likely, at least one-the jeep, and probably both, have four-wheel-drive capability)).
[Minor Edits for ease of reading only. Duplicate posted in Vehicles Section]
[JOURNIER (see links), persons—near end of “V” section]



AT HIS HOME

Read the full article at: Scared Monkeys


Hat tip: Michelle Simonsen at MICHELLE SAYS SO!

Last night on Fox, The Big Story Fox Oct. 2, 2005 Beth Holloway Twitty discusses the fact that it is old news to her and the family that her daughter Natalee Holloway went to Joran Van der Sloot’s house the night of May 30.

Julie: One of the new things that Joran was telling Christina that the whole story he told investigators was not true. Apparently he took Natalee to his home, then to the HI, then to the beach where he supposedly had sex with her. This is new information, this is huge. What are investigators doing about this have you been
in contact with them?

Beth: The sad part about this is a lot of this is not new. Police have known since the beginning that Joran took my daughter to his home. They have known that, they had statements as early as June 13th. There has been no secret about this.

Friday, October 07, 2005


PROSECUTOR'S STATEMENT 10/7

Read the full article at:
Scared Monkeys



Statement From the Aruba Prosecutor's Office regarding Natalee Holloway Investigation


Released 10/7/05.


(...)In the prosecution of criminal acts, the Public Prosecutor’s Office operates completely independent from the Minister of Justice and the Government of Aruba. The Public Prosecutor’s Office does not have to justify its actions with regards to the prosecution of criminal acts to the Minister of Justice or the Government of Aruba. All the accounting that the Public Prosecutor’s Office has to do, will be done before the Common Court of Justice of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba. Only the Common Court of Justice judges if the Public Prosecutor’s Office has done its work, the persecution of criminal acts, correctly. If that’s not the case, the Common Court of Justice can give the Public Prosecutor’s Office the necessary instructions. The Minister of Justice and the Government of Aruba do not have a say in this process. They cannot give instructions to the Public Prosecutor’s Office to prosecute somebody or to start a criminal investigation.

If a concerned party in a criminal case, for example somebody who has filed a complaint with the police, is of the opinion that the investigation is not being done or not being done in a reasonable amount of time, this person can file a complaint with the Common Court of Justice of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba.

Read the full article at:

Scared Monkeys


BOYCOTT INFO

Editorial:

Read the full editorial at:

Aruba Get A GRIP

Wednesday, October 05, 2005

Editorial: Natalee: Details are coming out!

Jossy
Mansur - DIARIO Aruba
10/05/2005


(…)The principal suspects is Dutch, the lead investigator was Dutch,
the prosecutor is Dutch and the five judges involved are Dutch. If you think
about it, an attempted boycott against Aruba is unjust, because it is
misdirected and won’t achieve the desired results.

(…)Because of
that America is questioning so severely the handing down of justice in Aruba,
because things have happened which make no sense, have no justification and
can’t be explained legally nor rationally.

Commentary:

Yes, the suspects, the investigator, the prosecutor, and the judges are Dutch; but, the “crime” happened on Aruba, the subsequent events occurred on Aruba, and the LE is Aruban Law Enforcement. This is an Aruban problem. Arubans were aware of the peril of tourists—they warned some of the tourists.

Arubans know more than they are saying. You can’t blame it on the Dutch if you stand by and let it all happen. This isn’t going to blow over. It isn’t going away.

It’s a call for Clean Up. Aruba can not afford to ignore it. You need to find the girl and return her to her parents.

JUSTICE 10 = TOURISM 10
JUSTICE 0 = TOURISM 0


LINKS FOR INFORMATION

A growing list of links to sites with information:


SCRUX Evidence Line data for court use.

SCRUX Unsubstantiated Info miscellaneous data.



JOURNIER Timeline a comprehensive timeline.

JOURNIER persons includes many persons, places, etc.



The Search for Natalee Includes commentary and videos.



CBS TIMELINE a brief timeline.


The Bushy Haired Stranger (Data)

Thursday, October 06, 2005


MAIN PERSONS--VDS GROUP

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PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT


CNN

TIM MILLER, EQUUSEARCH DIRECTOR: . . . . I got into -- not a real argument with Paul Van Der Sloot, but I let him know that we could help him clear his image and his name. And we really wanted to search the abandoned well in his backyard and also some new concrete supposedly poured around the swimming pool. And we had all equipment to do that with without having to dig anything up. And we said, "Will you allow us to do that?" And he literally went crazy on us. [TESvdsANGER]



PERSONS


Current Suspect P. SLOOT admits to telling Main Suspect J. SLOOT, Current Suspect D. KALPOE and Current Suspect S. KALPOE after NATALEE disappeared that “with no body, there is no case.” (Prosecutor JANSSEN says Current Suspect P. SLOOT told the boys this “within a couple days” of NATALEE’s disappearance, but also on 6-30 JANSSEN told “MSNBC”, “They spoke about the situation that when there is no body you don’t have a case, and that was already in the first day after the disappearance.”). [PVDS4hpax001]



JORAN VAN DER SLOOT

ANITA VAN DER SLOOT

(younger male) VAN DER SLOOT--second son of Anita and Paulus

(younger male) VAN DER SLOOT--third son of Anita and Paulus

DEEPAK KALPOE--brother of Satish

SATISH KALPOE--brother of Deepak

NADIERA -KALPOE- RAMIRIZ--mother of Deepak and Satish

JAN VAN DER STRATTEN--Chief of Police, friend of Paulus

BEN VOKING/KING--connected to ALE, friend of Paulus



VOCKING (a.k.a. “King”), Ben….
ARUBAN attorney in ARUBA Justice System prosecutor’s office;
“Head of the Support Division of the Attorney General.”

Reportedly VOCKING and Current Suspect P. SLOOT have worked together on prior cases. VOCKING admits he and the Current Suspect P. SLOOT’s family members “have been friends for some years.”

Changed his publicly used name to “Ben King.“

Reportedly seen with Current Suspect P. SLOOT at SLOOT home while police were searching the home for only 4 hours on 6-15.
[Minor Edits for ease of reading only.]
[JOURNIER (see links), persons—near end of “V” section]


INTERESTING PERSONS

STEVE CROES

CNN--interview

CNN




LORENZO VAN RIJN--said to be illegitimate half brother of Joran.



MEMBERS OF THE P.I.M.P. group:
FREDDY "locoman"


MISCELLANEOUS WITNESSES:


Hotel Employee

Landfill guy

Fishermen/Fishing Couple

Security Guards


DIRECTORY of PERSONS

Hotel Employee

Landfill guy

Fishermen

Security Guards





TROMP, EDWIN


Amigoe in English

Edwin Tromp director Arubabank
ORANJESTAD — Edwin Tromp will become Arubabank’s new director. This bank recently said farewell to director Fons Simon, who obtained a position as head of the RBTT-Bank for Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles.


Tromp’s career in the world of banking began at Citibank, which later became First National Bank of Aruba, and was then taken over by the Royal Bank of Trinidad & Tobago RBTT. It is still not know when Tromp will start working at Arubabank.




TROMP, ROY, Lt—Detective ALE


CBS

Authorities believe the testimony will support allegations that the suspect, Joran van der Sloot, has given contradictory statements about Holloway's disappearance two
months ago, said Lt. Roy Tromp.




ROBERT WERNEN, Headmaster of Joran’s School


PERSONS

WERNEN told JUG’s friends that the day before (5-31), the headmaster had spoken directly to Main Suspect J. SLOOT and Current Suspect P. SLOOT in the headmaster’s office and that the headmaster told Main Suspect J. SLOOT, “Joran, you need to come clean on what happened.” JUG said that WERNEN told his friends that Main Suspect J. SLOOT said that he and NATALEE engaged in some form of sex, and, he also said that NATALEE may have hit her head while swimming that night. The headmaster also told the friends that Main Suspect J. SLOOT and Current Suspect P. SLOOT told WERNENthat the reason that Current Suspect D. KALPOE’s car could not be seen in the “Holiday Inn” security camera video tapes around 2:00 AM on 5-30 is that “there was a break in the tape.” ((obviously, yet another lie conspiratorially concocted by the Suspects SLOOT’s and KALPOE’s before the early morning of 5-31 because the Suspects never viewed the “Holiday Inn” security cameras recorded video)) JUG also said that the headmaster has been interviewed by the ARUBA police.





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PRIME LOCATIONS

CARLOS 'N CHARLIES' (bar)


VAN DER SLOOT RESIDENCE AREA


DIRT ROAD NEAR RAQUET CLUB

X 1:

x 2:

UNKNOWN


MORE LOCATIONS

RUMOR OR FACT?

CARLOS 'n CHARLIES'

VDS RESIDENCE

KALPOE RESIDENCE

STEVE CROES RESIDENCE

THE DIRT ROAD

THE RAQUET CLUB

THE HOTELS

THE BEACHES

THE MOUTHES

THE MOUNTAIN

THE REFINERY

THE CEMETERIES

LANDFILL

THE SCHOOL

THE BARCADERA

THE LAGOON

NOORD

ORANJESTAD

SANTA CRUZ

DONKEY AREA

LIGHTHOUSES

DOCK AREAS

FISHERMEN'S HUTS



CHECK:

ISLAND MAPS

AERIAL PHOTOS

ADDITIONAL?


THE VEHICLES

RUMOR OR FACT?

HONDA

WHITE TRUCK

WHITE SUZUKI

the Bushy Haired Stranger


rstj 07-06-2005, 03:52 PM

Arlene Ellis-Schipper, a lawyer on the island, said their release indicated police no longer have enough evidence to keep the Kalpoes in custody. But that doesn't mean they are ruled out as suspects, she said.

Prosecutors have said that Van Der Sloot and the Kalpoes made statements "that are not sustained by other investigative results and/or witness statements."

Phone conversations, text messages and computer chat records cast suspicion on them, prosecutors said.

The Kalpoes told police they left Holloway unharmed at a beach near a Marriott hotel.

David Kock, Satish Kalpoe's attorney, told CNN that two fishermen told investigators they didn't see a couple matching the descriptions of Holloway and Van Der Sloot at the beach the night she disappeared.

But the lawyer quoted the couple as saying they did see a white Suzuki vehicle on the beach.

"That is the only thing that they saw that was abnormal for that day," the lawyer said.

Police were seen moving two vehicles from the Van Der Sloot home last month, including a white Suzuki.
[CNN's Tracy Sabo and Patrick Oppmann contributed to the report.]


[Note: Possible error--VDS vehicle said to be medium-blue. ( white Suzuki may be rental.)]



RED JEEP


TAXI


VDS VEHICLES--

(Does either

vehicle have four-wheel-drive for possible use to the “Arikok park possible temporary grave a tipster led “Texas EquuSearch“ to on 7-12? (likely, at least one-the jeep, and probably both, have four-wheel-drive capability)).
[JOURNIER (see links), persons—near end of “V” section]

(…)searched the SLOOT home for only 4 hours (with a dog, reportedly the dog obtained by the UNITED STATES F.B.I., also utilized), appearing to take away suitcases of suspected physical evidence (including a personal computer, Current Suspect P. SLOOT’s portable computer, and cameras) and their 2 vehicles. (a medium-blue colored SUV truck, and a red jeep)
[Minor Edits for ease of reading only. ]
[JOURNIER (see links), persons—US FBI section]


OTHER MESSAGES--VDS GROUP

RUMOR OR FACT?

There were other message methods available. Which, if any, were used?


PHONECALLS--VDS GROUP

RUMOR OR FACT?


Internet, Kalpoe Residence 2-3
Joran to Deepak 2:40
Joran to Deepak 3:00


GVS--FOX

What has caught my attention most is the timeline we have pieced together. From Satish's lawyer the other night on the show, we learned that someone was on the Internet at the Kalpoe residence from 2 a.m. to 3 a.m. Why did that person get off the Internet at 3 a.m.? Note that 3 a.m. is the exact time that Joran van der Sloot's second call went to Deepak's cell phone (the first was 2:40
a.m.)


A HOLE TOWARD MOUNTAIN?

RUMOR OR FACT?

Search crews received a tip that there was a recently dug hole. Exact location of the hole is not known at this time.

(Initial impression was it was in an area closer to the mountain than general search areas of the beaches closer to the hotels.)


TAPE FOUND NEAR MOUNTAIN

RUMOR OR FACT?

A piece of tape was found by a Park Employee--close to the shore, near the mountain. The tape was still sticky, indicating that it was recently used--possibly never wet.


DECAPITATED MAN--CEMETERY

RUMOR OR FACT?

A dead man was found in an Aruban cemetery. His throat had been slit; partial decapitation. Initial rumors were that the man had acquired a Columbian Neck Tie.

The man's wife was arrested for the murder.


A JOGGER WITNESS

RUMOR OR FACT?

A jogger witness phoned ALE sometime after 5/31 to relate what the witness saw. There was no one manning the phones; a message was left by the caller.

At a later time, ALE put out the information and requested the jogger to call again.

After no apparent response, information was passed around that the jogger was wanted as a possible suspect.


2 AM WITNESS

RUMOR OR FACT?

A witness saw the Kalpoe car driving on Montagna--TIME: approx. 2 AM, 5/30/05


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TIMELINE # 2


TIMELINE # 3


TIMELINE # 4


TIMELINE # 5


TIMELINE # 6


TIMELINE # 7


TIMELINE # 8


TIMELINE -- 9

RUMOR:

Reference has been made to a time-stamped photograph taken at 12:30 AM, May 30. (RWV)


TIMELINE -- 10

May 30, 2005--(a little before 1:00)

On the last night of the trip, Holloway attends a concert, then eats and dances at Carlos' n Charlie's bar and restaurant. She leaves a little before 1 a.m., according to the restaurant's master of ceremonies. (...)
CBSTIMELINE


**TIMELINES 11-20**

This begins the mystery.

At this point Natalee Holloway is last seen getting into a car with Joran Van Der Sloot (JVDS) at approximately 12:50-1:10 on May 29-30, 2005.


Friends say she is seen getting into a vehicle outside the nightclub. CBS TIMELINE


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TIMELINE # 15


TIMELINE # 16a


TIMELINE # 17


TIMELINE # 18


TIMELINE # 19a


TIMELINE # 20

Wednesday, October 05, 2005


**TIMELINES 21-30**

This point is the GARDNER or 3 AM, May 30th:


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TIMELINE #25


TIMELINE #26


TIMELINE #27


TIMELINE #28


TIMELINE # 29


TIMELINE # 30--


**TIMELINES 31-40** JUNE 1 plus

.
This is the section to fill in the blanks from June 1, 2005 to the present.


TIMELINE -- 32

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June 4, 2005

Police say three men - each legal Aruban residents between the ages of 18 and 25 - have emerged as "the most important lead." The men claim they dropped Holloway off at her hotel at about 2 a.m. Hotel employees, however, say security cameras did not record her return.
CBS TIMELINE


TIMELINE -- 33

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June 5, 2005

Two men are arrested in a pre-dawn raid. The suspects worked as security guards at a hotel near Holloway's until a day before her disappearance, sources said. Their attorney says they are being investigated for murder and kidnapping, and denies any link between his clients and Holloway. CBS TIMELINE


TIMELINE -- 34

.
June 9, 2005

Aruban police arrest the three men who said they gave Holloway a ride on the night she disappeared. The attorney general's office refuses to identify the three or say whether they have ties to the two other men detained in connection with the case.

CBS TIMELINE




June 10, 2005

Holloway's family rushes to a lighthouse after a police official tells the
media that one of the three young men in custody admitted something bad happened" and was leading police to the scene. But prosecutors refuse to confirm or deny the information, which yields no new developments.

CBS TIMELINE


TIMELINE -- 39

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JULY:

July 1, 2005

Aruban prosecutors say three youths held in conncetion with Holloway's disappearance could soon be charged with murder, even though no body has been found. Earlier in the day, an official said the three had already been charged.

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July 4, 2005

A judge orders the Kalpoe brothers' immediate release from jail, but says there is sufficient evidence against Joran van der Sloot to hold the teen for another 60 days while prosecutors build their case.

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July 26, 2005

George Twitty, Holloway's stepfather, says two new witnesses have given information on the night she disappeared. One, he says, claims he saw Joran van der Sloot driving to a tennis club across the road from the Marriott at around 2:30 a.m. that night, and that he tried to hide his face.

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July 27, 2005

Authorities use a large pump to drain the pond across from the Marriott Hotel while investigators await the results of DNA analysis from labs in the Netherlands and the United States.
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Aug. 26, 2005

Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, the brothers who had earlier been held and released, are arrested again. Citing "New facts and circumstances," officials detain them on suspicion of involvement, with unidentified others, in premeditated murder and rape.
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Sept. 2, 2005

A judge orders the conditional release of Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, the brothers who had earlier been held and released, then arrested again. The brothers were to be released Sept. 3, along with Joran van der Sloot, a Dutch teen who also is a suspect.

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WHY NOT LOOKING FOR DEEPAK?

A poster on another website questioned why H/T were not looking for Deepak's residence.

Deepak Kalpoe = DK
Holloway/Twitty = H/T

The answer may be simple. They didn't know about Deepak until the two were together at VDS residence. Much of the early hours are looking for Dutch student, with a particular car.

One MB student saw NH getting into a car, probably with JVDS. Some students knew his name was Joran. H/T followed the trail because of the gambling information. H/T might not have known Deepak was involved before JVDS, DK, and the car, were together that first night.

If H/T didn't know about Deepak, and were only searching for Joran, they would not have been looking for Deepak's home.


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For organizational purposes, I'm including blank posts to fill in later.

Monday, October 03, 2005


LIE # 1--EXCHANGE STUDENT?

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JVDS = Joran Van Der Sloot

JVDS as an "exchange student from Holland staying at the Holiday Inn" has been rumored. He was from Holland, and he was a student; but, he wasn't staying at the Holiday Inn and he wasn't an exchange student.

Many believe this is just "boys will be boys," a typical invention to make yourself look better--more impressive. Whether or not it's harmful or humorous would depend upon the subsequent events and the intent. We can guess, and might be wrong.

If John (a pedophile) were to email a child and state that he (John) is 13 years old, you can strongly suspect the intent is not good. The subsequent actions of John would determine the true intent. (Don't get excited, it's just an example.)

Whatever the purpose, whatever the words used, the determination of harmful or humorous (innocent) hinges on what comes next. Whatever you wish to call it, we have: LIE #1.


****STARTING OVER****

It has been months since I blogged here. Many things have happened in the world and in ordinary life. Although I enrolled in the "blogging adiction program," it didn't work and here I am, again.

This time, I'm attempting to find some truth concerning the Natalee Holloway case. Can a person on the Net solve the case of a missing young women? I wouldn't believe that, but I would believe that bloggers are working at it. I would believe that someone could develop information on a rumor to prove or disprove the rumor.

Someone, somewhere, may contribute an idea which works. This blog may be able to sort through the ideas and help straighten out the mess, but I doubt that it will solve the mystery. The purpose is to be helpful.

And so, the Blog is starting over. Looking at the Holloway case is the next phase of blogging for me.

Rule #1: Everything is offered IMHO.

Rule #2: Truth is the ultimate objective. Opinions may change from day to day.